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作者: 小蓉包 时间: 2011-2-9 04:12 AM
标题: Can't speak well in english is a shame for a Chinese?
As the title, is that so? Especially when we are in the college and University period.
Leave some comment please

作者: HappyQi 时间: 2011-2-9 04:51 AM
噢my god ...谁讲的？
只是以后interview大公司很吃亏咯！有presentation 就完蛋咯！

作者: black7white 时间: 2011-2-9 04:57 AM
coz we learn many languages,its very hard to master all d languages especially eng(4 me only lar)
wont shame la,my eng damn bad but in U still speaking in broken eng.

作者: 小蓉包 时间: 2011-2-9 05:12 AM
回复 3# black7white

I thought cases like people who good in speaking laugh on those who speak broken English, isn't?

作者: 小蓉包 时间: 2011-2-9 05:14 AM

噢my god ...谁讲的？
只是以后interview大公司很吃亏咯！有presentation 就完蛋咯！
HappyQi 发表于 2011-2-9 04:51 AM

But people like this also can pass their exam when study in University especially for the English subject?

作者: black7white 时间: 2011-2-9 05:56 AM
回复 4# 小蓉包

no ppl laugh at me b4.but if international student speak in broad accent,i will ask 4 them speak slowly so tat easy 4 me to catch word by word. XD!
btw r u facing tis problems?

作者: black7white 时间: 2011-2-9 05:59 AM
回复 5# 小蓉包

it is not difficult to pass in eng subject coz presentation,quiz,assignment mark is added to total mark,in d case we juz nid to get 10+ mark in final oready can pass d!

作者: 雨♂ 时间: 2011-2-9 08:05 AM

回复 black7white

I thought cases like people who good in speaking laugh on those who speak ...
小蓉包发表于 2011-2-9 05:12 AM

Absolutely . I'm bad in my english (grammar and speaking)

作者: black7white 时间: 2011-2-9 02:16 PM
回复 8# 雨♂

same here!xd!

作者: HappyQi 时间: 2011-2-9 11:14 PM
回复 5# 小蓉包

chehh, pass sure can pass one ... pass因为有准备嘛..
以前，eng oral presentation 我也可以拿8/10的咯。。我有背嘛。。
我的叔叔是大公司的，他有interview人的，他们不要不会讲英文的 =(
他说，讲话是讲话，present是present ！！我也很担心自己咯...

作者: 小蓉包 时间: 2011-2-10 01:39 AM
To all of you,
just try your best and remember 活到老学到老

作者: jbtalks.user 时间: 2011-2-10 03:17 PM
i want learn more about english~my english is very bad~anyone can teach me how improve english??

作者: 静云 时间: 2011-2-10 04:17 PM
I don't think so....i think can't know Chinese is a big shame to Chinese.as foreigner said Chinese is the hardest language in this world.Broken english is not a big deal as long as you can communicate with other...

作者: 小蓉包 时间: 2011-2-11 01:20 PM

I don't think so....i think can't know Chinese is a big shame to Chinese.as foreigner said Chinese i ...
静云发表于 2011-2-10 04:17 PM

Woah! That's great!

作者: minnie米 时间: 2011-2-27 02:57 PM
clearly shame,
even malaysian chinese can't manage to speak standard mandarin

作者: luq 时间: 2011-3-5 12:13 AM
is great n better u know ur own weakness,but dun be shame to learn new thing n improve urself

wish you good luck in ur study

cheer

作者: luq 时间: 2011-3-5 12:17 AM
回复 12# jbtalks.user

alot people say read alot of newspaper or any of book,but for me i'm a big huge lazy person hehehe.suggest listen alot of english song,but not only listen,try to understand n read the lyrics,coz i guess NO MUSIC NO LIFE RIGHT :-)

作者: luq 时间: 2011-3-5 12:19 AM
回复 11# 小蓉包

agreed what mm said

as long u not shame to learn,anything u'll be success,nothing is possible

作者: mcQueen_88 时间: 2011-3-5 01:39 AM
That is why we,us as chinese should keep improving ourselves so that others will not look down on us..
I love ENGLISH..
ENGLISH rocksssssss

作者: 老芽~@@ 时间: 2011-3-5 09:50 AM
i don't think so

作者: imrongrong 时间: 2011-3-11 10:19 PM
im not even dare to speak=.=
always use mandarin in college...
scare will laugh by others
i will only speak on eng when face those kid who only know english...=.=

作者: 阿芸 时间: 2011-4-1 09:24 PM
definitely. it's a shame as we will not be able to cope with the rate of globalization. as you know english is known as the global language now and we use it to obtain information, to communicate with people from all over the country. i encounter so many problems cause i can't master speaking skills. teacher never get the meaning of my questions, almost all the times. T.T

作者: panpanpan 时间: 2011-4-2 07:01 PM
is NOT a shame for a Chinese!
but quite ashame as we born in this generation..cause all around the world is using English..
like when you travel to other country we communicate with English, because English is an international language nowadays..
and also in college/university studies in English..need to speak English in presentation too

作者: chris-86 时间: 2011-4-3 11:24 PM
i don't think so,but if a chinese don't know how to speak chinese.
i think it will be shame.

作者: 咪咪白白 时间: 2011-4-6 03:24 PM
I dont agree if we could not speak English is shameful. I agree with Chris-86. Chinese does not know their own language is a shame. I have relatives brought up in Malay education and end up all speaks Malay and English at home. When they faced their China customers, they could not handle it well.

I would say preferable to know both Chinese and English are the best.

作者: nakedshadow 时间: 2011-4-7 09:14 PM
If most people on this planet do not speak English well, why should we feel ashamed?

作者: stickwitu 时间: 2011-4-9 03:06 PM
personally feel that we, as a chinese are awesome to know more then two language. Doesnt matter on how we know it but to care how we perform it oh..

作者: qinsheng1227 时间: 2011-4-15 12:44 AM
I Dun think so le~~~
反之，我觉得华人不会讲华语才可悲叻～～～～

作者: i_had_loved_you 时间: 2011-4-27 04:38 PM
its a shame to be a banana !

作者: oneway0113 时间: 2011-5-1 04:28 PM
actually it is nothing shameful.....
nowadays many foreign people try to learn chinese....
but mastering in english is a tool to help us get more opportunity ~

作者: kitchan53 时间: 2011-5-2 09:15 AM

As the title, is that so? Especially when we are in the college and University period.
Leave some ...
小蓉包发表于 2011-2-9 04:12 AM

i dont think so... but its a shame for a chinese if he cant speak well in chinese~

作者: Air-Tr@ck 时间: 2011-5-2 03:44 PM
cant speak well in English is not a shame for a chinese...
a chinese cant speak well in madarin , that is a shame...

作者: 紫冰 时间: 2011-5-4 09:09 AM
nope....
well because there mother language not english...
as in prime language not english....

作者: Y妹 时间: 2011-5-4 09:57 AM
I'm not agree, we are Chinese and maintain speaking chinese is the same as maintain our property of language. I'm not good speaker for english as well so it is shameless...

作者: 123henney321 时间: 2011-10-10 09:06 PM
hmm..speak more and i am sure you will speak fluent english soon! I felt that cant speak chinese well is a shame being a chinese

作者: 晴儿 时间: 2011-10-11 04:02 PM
cant speak well in Chinese is a shame for Chinese

cant speak well in English will be difficult to get job in big company

however, ENglish is easier than Chinese
I am very sure about tat because I am totally chinese-educated
after graudation from Foon Yew High School, I enrolled in Singapore University

at the begining i dare not to talk to those local students as they are english-educated,
their speaking will be much more better than us of coz

however, when i interned in a US company
i met a lot of foreigners
no choice, i got to force myself to speak english to them
speak english at work
just 2 months, i m able to master english speaking very well

in the past, before presentation
i will prepare the scripts and force myself to memorize
it takes a lot of time
now, i dun nid to do so
once you get the confidence, u will generally know how to speak english in front of others without fear

作者: annonymoushong 时间: 2011-10-20 01:39 PM
i can understand what they talking about,but i cant speak as well

作者: tcc0609 时间: 2011-10-22 07:45 PM
I think it's not a shame, but as English is an international language
thus, it's best to master it because we can use English to communicate with others not matter in which country.

作者: ~smile91~ 时间: 2011-10-23 01:47 AM
can't speak well in english is not a shame of chinese...but we also nid to learn english bcoz it is international language and english is important when we interview in big company or work for foreign company.

作者: elijahhee 时间: 2011-10-23 02:59 AM
I think so lah
In my opinion, if you can't speak English, you are a LOSER + PARIAH!
I really despise those national leaders who can't speak English and have to get a translator to communicate with other national leaders

作者: chisheng 时间: 2011-10-23 11:56 AM
English is such a common language, and malaysia failed to implement english language for core subject. in the end most malaysian will be kept in their own world, we might face the fact that singaporean might think that most of us can't speak english and look down on us.
In my opinion most indian can speak good english, but they did not neglect tamil and malay too. As a chinese we should learn how indian cope well with those learn.

作者: 赤色彗星 时间: 2011-10-25 10:50 AM
Not really, but English is important to us in the future...
Because English is International Language~
So learn well to communicate with foreigners~

作者: 2012救世主 时间: 2011-10-25 10:53 AM
of course it is!

作者: danfred 时间: 2011-11-1 04:57 AM
不会说华语的华人才shame吧...

作者: 10010 时间: 2011-11-1 01:38 PM
This is an interesting topic to discuss with. Personally I think it is a shame up to a certain extent, but it's not absolutely.
Seriously, English is very important in this world. If we cannot speak English very well, we will be looked down by others especially the Westerners.
Due to the fact that English is the international language and is widely spoken, it is essential to know how to speak and use it in our daily lives.

作者: krison 时间: 2011-11-3 10:25 AM
It is never a shame for a Chinese not knowing English. It is only a shame for a Chinese not knowing Chinese!

English is not our Mother Tongue and therefore we should not be embarrassed for not knowing it.

However, for a person who is going to get a good job in the current economy, he or she must master English. Therefore, it is foolish that the Malaysian government has not improve the English programme in the state schools.

作者: 天義 时间: 2011-11-5 12:10 AM
i agree with the sentence " it is never a shame for a chinese cant speaking well in english but in chinese ."

however ... the second language we learn - english , is just for the world‘s demand ...

it is believed that the british will not feel shame too for being unable to speak chinese

作者: Bella17 时间: 2011-11-21 10:07 PM
I dun think is a shame.
The fact is, in Malaysia, u have to learn English as a second language.
So, it is important for you at least master the command of English language.

作者: txiaoqian 时间: 2011-11-23 01:08 PM
It is only a shame for a Chinese not knowing Chinese

anyway a language is just a communication tool ,
as long as u can understand & you can express urself i think that's more than enough

作者: miryian 时间: 2011-11-25 11:28 PM
Well, if u graduate from usm and u can't speak English.... Well, hmm.

作者: xuenee1 时间: 2011-11-26 04:25 PM
i don think cant talk english is a shame for chinese ~

作者: lovebearbie 时间: 2011-11-30 11:44 AM
i think it's not a shame, but we have to keep upgrading ourselves as English is an international language which is very important

作者: Chloewaai 时间: 2011-12-3 06:05 AM
I'm learning hard , I can type it or write it, but problems with speaking

作者: seachingppl 时间: 2011-12-4 11:05 PM
haiz...English is very importance now

作者: katelover 时间: 2011-12-16 05:09 PM
本帖最后由 katelover 于 2011-12-16 05:10 PM 编辑

English is very important no matter in study or working period... you can't speak well in English will make you hard to find a job... the world is such materialistic, everyone in the world is seeking for someone can speak well in English, write excellent in English. it's not a shame, if you feel shameful, then i encourage you go to make your English better from taking an English short course, speak out with other and so on..
I'm the one who been experienced the important of English during my studied period.. everyone around me were those we called 'banana' and ang mo lang(coz i was studying @UK).. I'm only the one who had Chinese- education from primary to secondary time.. can you imagine how hard for me to join them? but i tried extremely hard to learn English from them instead of feeling shameful in front of them... Speak with them is useful... it will make your English improve faster....
even though, my English still in the improvement stage...i'm still facing the grammar mistake.. but at lease i can speak fluently with my friends. conclusion is learn from mistake ... nothing is shameful...

作者: 1234567 时间: 2011-12-27 10:21 AM
Its a shame if you are a chinese but u cannot speak chinese/mandarin.

作者: yangRI 时间: 2011-12-27 11:13 PM
Don't think it's much of a shame. As long as you're able to communicate and convey information, you'll get by. Of course, whether you're able to speak fluently or not depends on your upbringing and educational background. I've come across many instances where people feel ashamed that they're unable to converse well in spoken English. But many times I find myself respecting those who clearly aren't very fluent, but still have the courage to try. The point is not whether you can speak well and show off, rather, it's showing that you accept the fact that you have lots of room for improvement and your determination to try.

作者: Qwertyyy 时间: 2011-12-29 03:41 PM
I beg to differ, with the increasing economy crisis over at the western counterpart ( Euro - Greece/Italy and US Dollar trillion Debt) , the economy is shifting it's market towards the middle east and china, therefore (depending on which of your interest) working towards the east market is much more profitable since it's increasing. With that i conclude the question is it a shame if a chinese do not understand mandarin ?
( why ask ?) because as compared to the eastern ( PRC/Taiwanese) we do not speak as fluently as theirs whereas thats where most ( assumed) of our ancestors are from.

I am not saying English aint important, to a certain context, yes it is (internationally used) but if we are berating ourself down to 'shameful' ( A disgrace) for a Chinese it would be us not bothering about Mandarin

作者: 独爱＃歪歪 时间: 2011-12-31 10:53 PM
maybe lo @@poor thing
if din speak good enuf
sometimes will felt helpless jus bcoz cant express corretly

作者: Misskawa 时间: 2012-1-17 10:18 PM
i can write well but can't speak very well...

作者: 伊藤司浩 时间: 2012-1-28 02:00 PM
for me~~~ both are important... English is needed in workplace~but, i still speak Chinese with my friends..LOL

作者: mandychia 时间: 2012-5-7 12:10 AM
回复 1# 小蓉包

it won't, so don't worry and feel shy

作者: RcDrift 时间: 2012-5-12 03:37 AM
nah is not a shame, ask those angmoh who many languages can they comprehend

and trust me , you will win them

作者: Hummingbird 时间: 2012-5-12 12:05 PM
To me it is not a shame. English is not the mother tongue of mandarin-speakers. But as long as you are able to make people understand what you are trying to tell, it should be good enough.

作者: 姚金玲 时间: 2012-5-13 10:43 PM
Certainly not. Imo, the english level of malaysian chinese is much better than the chinese in china. However, fluency in english does give u an advantage esp. in workplace. I wish the day when my english level is as fluent as english native speakers will come true real soon~

作者: 韓苛刈 时间: 2012-5-18 04:57 PM
not a shame, but if u are in the college or university english is important and in big companies too

作者: Bluesky^^ 时间: 2012-5-28 10:10 PM
本帖最后由 Bluesky^^ 于 2012-5-28 10:12 PM 编辑

It's not a shame.
Yet, we should learn it well when we are young.
As we are getting older, we didn't really have the time to master it.
As a university graduate, I believe employers want us to speak English fluently and use it efficiently.

And if you're looking forward to work in a big company, English is essential.

作者: hostezs 时间: 2012-6-8 12:56 AM
force urself to get more indian friends! it helps ^^

作者: hostezs 时间: 2012-6-8 12:58 AM
and the only way you get to communicate with them is by english

作者: 可樂。 时间: 2012-6-8 12:32 PM
I think is up to urself la
Is u want a better life in future ,u will do all u can do improve it
"Rom was not build in one day"...

作者: 魏仔 时间: 2012-6-8 04:59 PM
shouldn't be a shame for Chinese, but Chinese need to be aware that English is getting important nowaday

作者: 洋葱头/___\ 时间: 2012-6-9 10:22 PM
并不是件羞耻的事~
因为身为华人的我们并不一定说的华语就是百分百的准确~
相较起来，不会华语的华人比不会英语的华人来的“shame”~
英语不好并不是羞耻，英语好对我们比较有利~

作者: Eywa 时间: 2012-6-13 02:28 PM
now english speaking seem like a Must in the current society, it is a main point during job interview unless ur company is a Taiwan/ hong kong/ japan/korea company.

作者: UWai 时间: 2012-6-13 05:26 PM
English is very important nowaday..
For those who don't know English is not shame.. they still can learn... unless you are lazy...

作者: GS-Ren 时间: 2012-6-21 10:58 AM
english very important nowaday ....

作者: bonnielim 时间: 2012-6-23 01:20 AM
indeed, this is what i thought about my college when i was 17 years old, yet, my college is full of chinese which they don't speak english, I am kind of disappointed because I think I can speak English in my college life to improve my speaking skill, but I don't met anyone of my classmate who like to speak in English TT

作者: izjenm86 时间: 2012-6-24 07:18 PM
I speak broken English...hahaha.....
less speak ...
speak more to improve...but when i work in customer service in bank, most Chinese although they can speak mandarin or cantonese they still speak English.....

作者: kingkopera 时间: 2012-6-24 11:46 PM
no... but it also need to learn how to speak

作者: justjoke90 时间: 2012-7-1 10:16 AM
i speak broken english too....since we are Chinese, and english is not our first language....so should not be shame

作者: sleepinggod 时间: 2012-7-2 12:50 AM
I don't think so.

作者: alberttreed 时间: 2012-7-2 04:08 PM
Perhaps it is not, proficient in English can only show you are great in communication but if you can't doesn't means that you are weak.

作者: e.coli 时间: 2012-7-26 04:15 PM
it's not a shame matter but if u can speak good english, it would be a great advantage for you.

作者: AK_Acc_Services 时间: 2012-7-27 03:58 PM
回复 1# 小蓉包

last time when i at college, i also couldn't speak english well... but we can try and learn to talk with other ppl... dun be shame.. shame couldn't help you to improve

作者: Vikki 时间: 2012-8-12 06:48 AM
i think it depends on which uni u're in, like in UTAR/KTAR it matters much less whether you're fluent in the english language

作者: wayne7 时间: 2012-8-28 12:54 PM
agree wit 2nd floor person...

作者: AvrilHiga 时间: 2012-9-2 06:36 PM
It is not considered as a shame
It can only be considered as problem in speaking
If you encountered problem in speaking, all you need to do is overcome
No one could help you either, you have to put in effort, be brave to speak, never fear of mistakes
I wish you luck

作者: 薇昂丝 时间: 2012-9-10 12:16 AM
I'm gonna ask u back>>>

Can't speak well in korean is a shame for a Chinese?
Can't speak well in japanese is a shame for a Chinese?
Can't speak well in french is a shame for a Chinese?
Can't speak well in italian is a shame for a Chinese?

what's ur answer ,haha...

作者: 酱酱`` 时间: 2012-9-13 10:10 AM
having to speak good english is. impressive. for a chinese educated student.

作者: stevennkc 时间: 2012-9-18 07:40 AM
shame if you don't study hard

作者: elyca 时间: 2012-9-23 07:10 PM
maybe the others will think that so, just be yourself.
Don't let the other ruin your life haha, quite weird.

作者: K.H. 时间: 2012-9-24 12:49 PM
本帖最后由 K.H. 于 2012-9-24 12:51 PM 编辑

I do feel ashamed when I first enter college 6 years ago, even worse, with my ah beng look..
so maybe you guys can start to imagine: a guy from Klang, and from Chinese school, never even went to Subang and now pursue further study at The One Academy, surrounding by those so called 'cooler' classmates from KL, you can imagine how low my self-esteem at that time..

all I can do is sticked with 2 international students where one of them from Philippine and another from Mongolia... it was real hard and yeah, I do feel ashamed as I can't really communicate with them, but day by day I've been forced to spoke english with my 2 international friends and then, I changed my outlook.. and soon, the class started to know my existence~

and now, I came back from 10 months staying at London for degree study, most of my friends are local English, but thanks to those that mocked on me before this~ might as well thanks to those that willing to talk to me before this, and thanks to all my UK mates.. I might not be an expert in English but at least, it is not a problem for me anymore

作者: flyfly_欣 时间: 2012-9-25 02:35 AM
well to me, it is not something to be ashamed of if the person is willing to buck up his/her english, nobody is perfect hehe, everybody learn from mistakes.
to me english is more like an important language as it is internationalized..to develop a decent proficiency in english is definitely a plus point right

on a side note, i think every race should also learn how to speak in their mother-tongues. i admit im a bad mandarin speaker =.= i can even misplace the words in simple chinese idioms. but hey, no worries, as long as we all learn

作者: angel23love 时间: 2012-9-30 10:46 PM
It's good, you are well speaking in English, but it's shameful that if you are a CHINESE but you don't know how to speak in Chinese.

作者: ChinChinn 时间: 2012-10-2 04:46 PM
need to learn only actually quite easy everyday u listen to radio will know a lot

作者: bblessed 时间: 2012-10-11 05:55 PM
I guess YES. me personally is degree student. Sometimes feel awkward when facing international student!
haha, but when it really come to a circumstances that you really don't understand then just ask or say your english not good. I think your friend will understand

作者: manjusaka 时间: 2012-10-24 09:25 PM
Do you know that there are actually some bananas who would laugh at the Chinese-educated people for their broken English? And they're so proud of not knowing how to speak Chinese.

作者: lemongirl88 时间: 2012-11-23 08:46 AM
当然。。。社会试现实的

作者: 红魔小偷 时间: 2012-11-23 08:59 AM
I am poor in English ...my gf many ang moh style friend...so cham

When they all chat ah,i very scare they throw me question ==''

作者: 3d学习 时间: 2013-1-25 05:39 PM
i know some english speaking chinese (not all!）that is laughing people who cant speak well in english, anyway, that's their small world they are living in. pathetic

作者: lifeissianz 时间: 2013-1-31 08:21 PM
who said so? in the world one third of chinese success without even know how to communicate in english either written or spoken language, in this world english is nothing, if you have a business mind u can succeed easily, some of my friends that came from china their parents were either farmers or businessman, they succeed in their career but did not managed to capture any single knowledge that is why mana china students came over to either singapore or malaysia to further educate themselves as they do not want to fail their parents whom spend a huge sum of money to educate them in return they must return this favour to their parents by educating back them. for me personally it is a disgrace for me if i do not understand the importance of english as many civilians nowadays at least understand a sentence of english.

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